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I really hope you will include a possibility to configure to use ZOO for product items (Instead of articles) and utilize the upcoming ZOO dynamic content option and the ZOO4 that is currently being developed by Yootheme.

I use ZOO for all content items and together with Pro2store this would be super powerful.
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Thanks for the idea. With ZOO 4 coming soon, we'll have to see what's in store and how it may be used. No promises yet, but still a good idea Morten.
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Please add to my wishlist :p
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ZOO 4 was published, and it looks great. But e-commerce factor is still lacking, so.... ;) ;) ;) This would be a GREAT combination!
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Thanks Josh Gilson i am glad you feel my requests are useful.

ZOO 4 is out and it looks really promising and the combi of ZOO and YT Pro is super powerful and flexible for website creater and very user-friendly for staff/ content creators
Pro2Store would be fit very good into this, and I hope you´ll get working on the implementation of ZOO4 in the near future.
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Hi Morten

Here you have one more who really want this be launched soon.

I have a couple of site build with Yootheme and ZOO where I use J2Store e-commerce (best ZOO + Cart solution today). Now when I want to upgrade to ZOO 4 and Yootheme Pro, I want to replace J2Store. I have contacted them and they not putting any focus for ZOO so I think they will lose customers. The other option is Zoolanders ZOOCart but that hasn't been updated for years and was not good as J22Store.

Yootheme working on WooCommerce compatibility for WP also a winning concept, and that makes me happy (have some shops there), but I don't want to make my Joomla stores to WP stores.

If you want to win over a lot of Customers I think the winning concept is to make pro2Store work with ZOO articles.
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Oops sorry ... should start in the comment above...

Hi Josh Gilson ;-)
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ZOO 4 integration would be the bomb!
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Hi Josh -

After corresponding with Miljan from Zoolanders I learned that they will be sunsetting ZooCart. He recommended Pro2.store so I took it for a test and was very impressed.

My main reason for implementing Zoo 4 dynamic content would be to continue using Zoolanders elements and components. Particularly ZooFilter. Having the ability to filter using item element variables is a powerful tool for any online catalog. A couple of ZooCart features that I would like to see are:

  • Image change on option toggle (red shirt, blue shirt, green shirt, yellow shirt)
  • Date range for CSV export
  • Ability to print shipping labels


I'm very excited to see such a well thought out and professionally built app.

Robert Clinton
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Robert Clinton Thanks for trying us out! ZooLanders are great guys! Go Buy Their YOOEssentials PLugin ;)
Anyway, we have ZOO integration on the to-do list and everything you're asking for is reasonable.
Please keep an eye out on our Blog for updates as well as our Discord beta for future help testing new features if you're interested: https://discord.gg/Qya54jTMAj
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Hi Josh -

Ditto on the Zoolanders team. I've been subscribing to ALL their extensions for almost ten years. Miljan & Milos are absolute pros and wonderful people!

Just completed my developers subscription and look forward to working with your team and exploring the potential of your exciting product.

I hope you are safe and coping with the tragedy that has unfolded down in Texas!

- Robert
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I just want to pitch in on the YT Pro x ZOO4 x Zoolanders (Essentials YT Pro + Essentials ZOO) setup

I too am a year long happy user and just repurchased all these subscriptions after waiting for Zoo and Zoolanders to come an the YT Pro dynamic content wagon ... and ooohh my ... this is an absolute revolution for my webplatform project and website building in general.

There are only two levels left to absolute heaven on this webdesign freedom journey (for me anyways):

1. A Pro2store with as big e-commerce ambitions and long-term stamina as the above mentioned (and i can´t recommend enough to study and take everything you can from Lightspeed retail in terms of functionality ...also an element like POS and in-store inventory levels synced with online inventory ..and the ability to move stock between the two

In-store and e-commerce is gonna merch more and more, and the flexibility with YT Pro + Zoo will make great in-store promo screens, pricing visualisation etc etc.


2. I REALLY wish that someone would see a little side business in making a YT Pro dynamic content plugin for "Events booking" from Joomdonation
We are a number of customers over there that need this but Joomdonations otherwise very listening and open developers (with excellent support) are not into this project due to lack of skills and understanding of YT Pro and UIKIT.

EB is a really great extension for events on all parameters ..except the template/ visual ... a YT Pro integration would take care of this forever in the same way as Pro2store will for a great looking e-commerce that can be modified on all visual parameters.

YES THIS IS A WISH FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE ON THAT (MINOR) PROJECT :)


I can´t wait to see what the future of Pro2Store with ZOO4 will bring.
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Thanks everyone for your interest and support of P2S! I love this community.

Robert Clinton I was lucky. We never lost power or internet and we just lost running water 2 days ago with the hopes of getting it back today or tomorrow.

Morten hansen I've spoke with Tuan at JoomDonation and they understand the importance of YTP dynamic sources, and they said they'd look into it, but I know their plate is pretty full. That said, without spoiling too much, I'm also helping Zoolanders test their next release and they're ontrack to support more "sources" for dynamic content with the ability for more to come. YOOtheme's new beta release also has more dynamic sources coming very very soon!

This will be a BIG year for all things Joomla! Please feel free to join us on our Discord channel (https://discord.gg/N9TH3Nb8aF) to beta test and offer more input as you see fit.

Thanks!
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Hi everyone...

Many thanks for your input on this great discussion. As Josh has said... I love this community too, and it's fab that we can have these discussions and have us all help push the development forward in the right direction.

Here's my thoughts on the ZOO4 thing.

First of all, it should be remembered that I also run and manage ZooModsPlus. I had been deep into the ZOO thing for many years. My agency built 200+ sites using ZOO and I had developed plugins and extensions for ZOO.

I love ZOO. I love developing for it, and I even put out some tutorial videos on how to develop elements etc.

However.. .since YOOtheme Pro dynamic content (coupled with Joomla Custom Fields) came along, I've basically stopped using ZOO for the agency. And in fact, we've spent some time converting over a large percentage of our clients sites from ZOO over to YOOtheme Pro dynamic content. There are many business reasons for this, the main one being that our designers can now pull together a fully working website, full of dynamic content with no need for me or any "developer" to be directly involved. When we ran our sites on ZOO, I would need to code the custom elements and manually code the YOOtheme Pro layouts in custom ZOO apps.

We did all of this before ZOO4 came along.

And here's a confession. Although I went ahead and purchased the ZOO4 Subscription from YOOtheme (in order to support their development) I haven't actually installed it or even had a look at it yet.

However... I will take some time soon to have a deep look at it and try to uncover any potential for Pro2Store.

State of Pro2Store

At this moment in time, we are at a bit of a crossroads with Pro2Store. I recently spent a lot of time and effort fixing the 1.2 release. As explained, originally I was storing all monetary values as "floats" in the database. In hindsight, this was a terrible idea and the 1.2 release was my attempt to switch everything to integers. The process was long and hard, but thankfully, 1.3 seems to have (at last) settled the issues resulting from the 1.2 release.

So now we're in a position where I'm looking to push forward the next "big idea" for Pro2Store.

There is a choice:


  • Digital Products/Subscriptions
  • ZOO4 integration
  • AJAX Advanced Search & Grid


We will eventually look at both, but one will have to take priority over the other. My personal preference would be the Subscriptions, but I'm happy to go with what the community suggests.

Perhaps we should do a twitter poll?
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+1 for subs/digital products (I don't use twitter).

In the end, I would also be happiest if everything could be done with Yootheme Pro and Pro2Store without any external components (and investments).
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That's the plan!

At the moment, we're using RD Subs for our subscriptions and although I love RD Subs (it's still the best subs extension in the Joomla space in my opinion) it has been "dropped" by Robert and another developer is taking it up. But we need something we can rely on for the long term so building subs into Pro2Store is in our own business interests.

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I agree that Yootheme Pro and Pro2Store would be ideal if advanced product filtering could somehow be implemented similar to the way Zoolanders ZooFilters behaves as demonstrated here
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Yes Robert Clinton I agree... Ajax filtering would be even better.

I have used JL Content Fields Filter module with Yootheme Pro and it seems to filter custom fields nicely. I never got the ajax option working properly with Yootheme Pro.
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My vote is also with Digital Products/Subscriptions first, but as other mentioned we need a native YTP & P2S Filter with Ajax.
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Hi all,

I've read the replies with interest.

I have added the AJAX Filtering/Grid to the "Next Big Thing" comment above.

This is something I've been working on for a while. The reason is it's not further on in development, is because there are some pretty deep technical limitations on running AJAX - both from within YOOtheme Pro elements and using vanilla JS.

However... over the past few weeks I've been working on redeveloping the frontend elements of Pro2Store in Vue JS (In fact I'm typing this reply while taking a break from coding the last element in Vue3)

Once I have all the frontend converted to Vue3, I will look again at how I can implement the advanced search sidebar with AJAX and grid system to accompany it.

There is a big technical limitation in getting 2 separate YOOtheme Pro elements to "speak to each other" in this way... so this might need to be a large single element.

i.e. a single element you drop into the page, and you control the sidebar and the grid in one place. This would allow me to make sure that the grid and filter can interact in a way that can work with AJAX etc. But it will limit (to some extent) the layout flexibility.

I'll make further announcements when I'm closer to finishing.
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Morten hansen I've spoke with Tuan at JoomDonation and they understand the importance of YTP dynamic sources, and they said they'd look into it, but I know their plate is pretty full. That said, without spoiling too much, I'm also helping Zoolanders test their next release and they're ontrack to support more "sources" for dynamic content with the ability for more to come. YOOtheme's new beta release also has more dynamic sources coming very very soon!

This will be a BIG year for all things Joomla! Please feel free to join us on our Discord channel (https://discord.gg/N9TH3Nb8aF) to beta test and offer more input as you see fit.

Thanks!


Regarding Events Booking // I really appreciate the talk with Tuan at JoomDonation and as a big fan and longtime user of zoolanders products I am really excited to hear what you guys are up too.
Event bookings as sources is really something that I need sooner than later, but don't have the skills or the influence to push a solution for. So I really appreciate the insight you gave and hope the ideas will grow into a solution.

Feel free to contact me if you have more or need a person to test solutions for this :)

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// Regarding ZOO4 and Pro2Store //

I have been working 3 weeks now with ZOO4 and YT Pro dynamic Content converting to dynamic content layouts and this is a revolution of possibilities. I cant praise this enough.
(To be honest I haven't used core custom fields much but relied many years on ZOO, so bear that in mind)

The primary reason for using ZOO is I highly rely on front-end user-generated/managed content ...ZOO together with Zoolanders (ZL) has always been outstanding for this ...and still is. This is essential in a platform site and in bigger corporate sites where you want to delegate content creation and management to users/employees.

- The ability to create access management for fields on submit & edit layouts, I use that to manage who can what and to create different plan levels of creator subscriptions.
- ZL has a really powerful dynamic filepaths features with tags for the Image Pro elements that allows for users to upload and manage files/images and only have access to their own folders (can be used in many ways).
- The management of fields and grouping in zoo-types and zoo-apps gives some really nice possibilities and is easy for management, and especially the ZL Pro zoo elements has some features that I haven´t heard of for core fields (correct me if I am wrong)
- ZOO with YT Pro makes it possible to create templates for ZOO content fields (and when these can be created/edited by users) makes It possible for users to manage all content on their pages on the web platform but centrally create the look and useability. This is sooo powerful and gives some many possible design scenarios

I still really believe in the ZOO project and think it has great advantages to core fields.

All in all .. ZOO4 integration with Pro2Store would open up for creating platform/ collaborative shop concepts where you can host multiple sellers/ product managers on the shop with very little skills and still have a great-looking site for years and years. But this setup is also great for small business owners that don´t want to be site designers and want an easy powerful setup managed from front-end.

For me though ...a ZOO4 x YT Pro x Pro2Store setup is not relevant before Pro2Store in the next 6-12 months and before P2S is proved, tested, and has a greater level of features for daily management and usage
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